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Handguns & Holsters / Re: Clinger Holsters?
« Last post by Taurian on February 16, 2018, 11:14:22 AM »
Ayup! Funny how that works.
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Handguns & Holsters / Re: Clinger Holsters?
« Last post by NorCalChuck on February 16, 2018, 10:35:18 AM »
Well Taurian I can only say that was a very round about way of convincing yourself to purchase another holster.
Heck it almost worked on me!
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Local and World News, NOT political / Re: Florida
« Last post by M1911A1 on February 16, 2018, 10:34:33 AM »
...This would also be a good letter to send to local newspapers (not that they would print it), but at least you would have your say...

It has been submitted.
I am awaiting their decision.
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Local and World News, NOT political / Re: Florida
« Last post by NorCalChuck on February 16, 2018, 10:31:47 AM »
As the saying at Front Sight says, "You are the weapon, the gun is a tool!"
When we learn that, and teach that, then we can begin to perhaps solve of this problem.
Until then this crazyness will continue.
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Local and World News, NOT political / Re: Florida
« Last post by Taurian on February 16, 2018, 10:03:01 AM »
Excellent response!

This would also be a good letter to send to local newspapers (not that they would print it), but at least you would have your say.

I foresee an attempt by the anti-gunners to change the law for purchasing a rifle from 18-years old to 21-years old, as is true with handguns.  It would not change anything, but it would sure make people feel like they are doing something positive instead of being helpless. Oh, what can we do, what can we do?

Firearm Prohibition? That did not work with alcohol so what makes one think that it would work for firearms.

The answer is not with the device, it is with demind.

I hope that your response was received well by the recipient.
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Citizens Defense - The Second Amendment in Action! / Re: Stand Your Ground Law
« Last post by Taurian on February 16, 2018, 09:49:52 AM »
I like the part; ""A reasonable person being attacked in a dark alley by masked men would believe their life to be in jeopardy," Heckerman wrote in his order. "

If he was a 'reasonable man' he would not have been in a dark alley, as no 'reasonable and prudent man' would be in a dark alley - in most cases.  Was he on a 'buy' where the suspects would obviously deduce that he had money. I think that what we had here was three "reasonable' men in a dark alley. The time of the incident was not given, but I have to assume that this was at night if the alley was dark.

Perhaps, he was out walking his dog. The mention of that might lead me to believe that he was an innocent victim, because I carry when I am walking my dog, but the non-mention of 'why' he was in that alley makes him suspect, in my mind.

However, we all have the right to defend ourselves now, don't we?
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Handguns & Holsters / Re: Clinger Holsters?
« Last post by Taurian on February 16, 2018, 09:18:45 AM »
First, I do like a dual-clip arrangement to better stabilize the holster on the belt.

Secondly, I do like the full Kydex concept.

However, the holster look pretty complex with all of the adjustment/attachment screws.

With that said, I may order one for evaluation. Then, I can really let you know what I think of it.

And, to answer your question, I have not used any of their holsters, but I am certainty happy that you asked about them because this is the first I have heard of them.
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Local and World News, NOT political / Florida
« Last post by M1911A1 on February 15, 2018, 07:06:10 PM »
A favorite cousin, herself one of the parents of a young-adult son and a 'teenage daughter, has just written to me (her go-to "gun guy") as follows:

"...Of course, our thoughts have also turned to you in light of yet another shooting. Perhaps you can explain why AR-15 military-grade weaponry is permitted and available? While I am not a hunter, I certainly support my friends who own hunting rifles. I’m just having a hard time understanding this dimension of [it all]. Hoping you can help me wrap my head around this..."

So I replied, in part:

Dear [cousin];

First of all, “military-grade” weaponry is not [normally] available to the law-abiding citizen.
Only those who operate outside of the law have access to stolen (from the military) military-grade equipment.
Responsible, law-abiding people [who are not specially licensed] are limited to rifles and pistols which fire only one shot at a time, even if they reload the following shot on their own (“semi-automatic”). Military stuff shoots continually, as long as the user keeps its trigger depressed.
Non-military guns may be military-looking, but that’s just a matter of cosmetics. Mere appearance has absolutely nothing to do with function.

But that’s not really the issue here. The real issue is discipline and responsibility.
The Florida murderer was still a minor, although permitted by law to purchase a rifle and its ammunition. Where had his parents been, while he was growing up with "anger issues” (as several of his classmates observed)? Where were they when he brought his rifle home? Why had they not exercised some amount of control, teaching him right from wrong and correcting him when he headed in the wrong direction? Why hadn’t they instilled some amount of self-control in him, during his formative years?

You are one of the parents of two young people. Would [your son] do something like this? Would [your daughter]?
We both know that they wouldn’t. So, why wouldn’t they? How do they differ from the 19-year-old killer in Florida?
If you gave [your son] a rifle, what would he do with it? Why wouldn’t he misuse it? Why wouldn’t he kill the people he doesn’t like?

[My daughter] was taught about guns, and how to shoot. She grew up in a home in which there was always at least one fully-loaded pistol at hand.
Why did [she] never access that loaded pistol? Why didn’t she take it to school, and do away with the people she didn’t like?
How does [she] differ from the Florida killer?

You have to remember that the term “gun violence” is composed of two separate concepts.
“Gun” is merely an adjective, which modifies “violence.” The gun is only a tool in the hands of a violent person, and that person would be violent even without the gun.
Further, an uncontrolledly violent person without a gun might accomplish even greater mayhem. Think of Timothy McVey, who destroyed more than 100 people with a bomb made of readily-available, uncontrollable and unrestrictable materials.

Also think of the very different outcome possible, if some qualified teachers and administrators in that Florida school had been armed.
But we “protect” our children by declaring that schools are “gun-free zones.” Did the Florida killer respect that “gun free” designation? Or did it disarm the very people upon whom the children depended for their safety and well-being? (See also the Connecticut shooting of a few years ago.)

By and large, only the uncontrollably violent and the asocial people among us misuse weaponry, which, by the way, includes not only guns, but also knives, baseball bats, and even rocks.
We have now gone through three generations, at least, of people, each of whom has been taught that he (or she) is the most important person on earth, rather than that everybody else is important too, or even, in a sense, more important. These people have never been taught personal responsibility and self-control, and, as a result, many of them are uncontrollably violent and a few of them are clinically asocial.
I suggest that it will take at least three more generations to work our society out of this mess, and yet we have not even begun to try to address the problem.
Instead, we keep focussing on the tool, and, by doing so, remain blind to the person wielding it.

So my point is that the tool used is not at issue. It is the mindset of the tool user that is the problem.
Deny the use of one particular tool, and the malevolent will merely find another tool: Say, for instance, a truck driven into a mass of revelers. That’s what happens in countries in which guns are not quite so readily available.
Can you explain to me why gun violence is worse than, or even different from, truck violence? Or fertilizer-bomb violence?

You can’t.

Love,

Steve
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Citizens Defense - The Second Amendment in Action! / Re: Stand Your Ground Law
« Last post by NorCalChuck on February 15, 2018, 02:56:44 PM »
I would think that if we had more "stand your ground laws," we would have less mass shootings. But that is just my opinion and I have been wrong before.
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