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An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« on: November 27, 2011, 11:13:57 AM »
The article at the following link by Greg Ellifritz changed my mind about which caliber was the minimum acceptable round in terms of stopping power for my concealed handgun.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866

The bottom line is that all defensive handgun calibers are about the same in terms of stopping power. Sure it is fun to debate this topic but the stats presented in this article speak volumes to the validity of arguments pro or con to any "minimum acceptable" caliber.

As a side note, Texas does not allow the shooting qualification portion of the Concealed Handgun License certification training to be done with less than a .32 caliber handgun. I think for me, I'll use that as my personal "minimum acceptable".
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 11:24:45 AM »
Good article thanks for posting Charles.
 
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 10:21:35 AM »
I think that it is a good report, but I question the use of fractions. For example; Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.38. While that may be true statistically, the average person shoots whole projectiles and not fractions thereof. This average figure could be one person took 4 rounds to incapacitate while another took 6 rounds while another took 3 rounds... While the average would be 4.333 rounds, it does not indicate real world summations. Let's say that I group three double-taps to the body. That's six rounds. Does that mean it took all six rounds to incapacitate? Not necessarily.

At least he is honest in his summations and would question the effectiveness of the .32 over a .45.

An interesting read, regardless.
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 10:46:12 AM »
I found the article very interesting. My problem is most of the handguns over the 32 are to heavy and the recoil is just to much to handle. So will stay with my 32 which is comfortable.
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 11:02:04 AM »
There's nothing wrong with a .32 pistol.  Nothing at all!  For years my main carry was a Walther PP (32 auto)...it could stop the BGs....and was comfortable to pack. 


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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 11:04:13 AM »
"At my age"  My god how old do you think I am?
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 11:48:30 AM »
There's nothing wrong with a .32 pistol.  Nothing at all!  For years my main carry was a Walther PP (32 auto)...it could stop the BGs....and was comfortable to pack. 


The fact that you carry at all, at your age, and care about the well being of you and yours iz to be commended!!! 




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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 12:05:54 PM »
Yep that was a big whoops   ;D but you're forgiven  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 12:28:19 PM »
"At my age"  My god how old do you think I am?
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 12:39:03 PM »
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 07:54:04 PM »
Good info Charles. In my opinion the caliber is not the problem with the stopping, it's the bullet placement that is critical. 44 mag in the arm will not stop any body, but A 22 between the eyes will. That's why practice is crucial in being able to put shot where you want it to be. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 04:51:35 AM »
To me it is all about hitting where you shoot, would rather hit someone with a 22 in the head than the 45 in the foot... or not at all...parctice is essential, and being all so familiar with your weapon as well as your surroundings.

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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 08:51:11 AM »
I don't know about that article.. It reads to me that all bullits are created equal. And they are not
It is true that they can all kill you,  but lets be honest if you hit a charging man that weighs 300lbs. with a 22 in the belly do you honestly think you are going to slow him down? As compared to a 44mag.

I carry a 38 snub most of the time but I still believe that the bigger the hole the better. If I could carry a 45 comfortaby I would. just my 2cents
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 09:05:26 AM »
"At my age"  My god how old do you think I am?
NEVER tell a woman how OLD she is you WILL always loose!
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2011, 05:13:29 AM »
"At my age"  My god how old do you think I am?

Old enough to know better and young enough not to care!   ;)
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Re: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2011, 12:51:36 AM »
Shot placement is a very big factor in stopping "power".

I'm glad to see this thread is not one of the endless "caliber wars" that seem to be so prevalent these days.
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