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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 07:04:08 PM »
"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a  governor who wants to be president," Republican Sen. Greg Ball, who represents part of  the Hudson Valley, said after the Senate vote on Monday, according to the AP. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 10:11:03 PM »
I'm sure that New York State's new gun laws will make us all much safer.

Particularly, I'd like to call your attention to the provision that declares all non-politicians to be mentally ill, and thus ineligible to possess guns.
There is, of course, an exception for celebrities, and for the extremely wealthy who donate money to the correct political candidates.

The law's new definition of "assault weapon" now includes not only all black-colored rifles, pistols, and shotguns, but also all wooden and plastic canes that are capable of delivering more than one blow without breaking.
A "large-capacity magazine" is defined as any paper-based publication which contains more than ten conservative opinions.

There's more, of course, but you can easily see from these examples that New York State will now be a much safer place to live.
Governor Cuomo warns New Yorkers, however, that if any of them ever cross the line into Vermont, their rights of New York State citizenship will be immediately terminated and automatically revoked.
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 04:17:14 AM »
So all those morons who have bodyguards, if they have a total of 7 can each guard only have One round? Law states, Those in NY can only protect themselves with 7 rounds.
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 04:26:36 AM »
"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a  governor who wants to be president," Republican Sen. Greg Ball, who represents part of  the Hudson Valley, said after the Senate vote on Monday, according to the AP. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

The aforementioned are all criminals. How has this improved any aspect of our society?  Oh, that's right, I forgot, Ob and the boys are "Changing " out society.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 08:19:01 AM »
It will be interesting to see in NY takes over the title of "Crime Capitol" from D.C. or Chicago.  :P
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 09:45:02 AM »
The aforementioned are all criminals. How has this improved any aspect of our society?  Oh, that's right, I forgot, Ob and the boys are "Changing " out society.

Fundamentally . . .

The BGs in NYC are now worried about being limited to only seven rounds in a magazine . . . I'm sure.  Yep, this'll have a great impact on "gun violence."  But what about knife violence and bat violence and brick violence and bomb violence and choking violence and, and, and . . .
Hey! What about just plain old violence???  Doesn't anyone care about plain old violence any more?  Are we now a nation of violence specialists?  Ordinary violence has been relegated to the bottom of the bin?  Meh!

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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 02:51:38 PM »
The aforementioned are all criminals. How has this improved any aspect of our society?  Oh, that's right, I forgot, Ob and the boys are "Changing " out society.

Yes, changing society for the worst.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 06:16:23 PM »
A couple NY state senators were on Hannity today. One was for and one against the legislation. I thought it was interesting and very funny that the legislature pushed the bill through so fast (so they could beat Obama's executive orders), that they failed to exclude LEOs from the 7-round magazine ban. They have to do a "little tweaking" the one guy said.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 07:11:05 PM »
A couple NY state senators were on Hannity today. One was for and one against the legislation. I thought it was interesting and very funny that the legislature pushed the bill through so fast (so they could beat Obama's executive orders), that they failed to exclude LEOs from the 7-round magazine ban. They have to do a "little tweaking" the one guy said.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 01:15:16 PM »
Being from NY(Upstate), this is one of the most idiotic things these morons have ever done, And let me just say, they do alot of dumb things here.  I would have everyone on this forum know however that I have voiced my opposition to this new 'SAFE' act, but it seems nowone is responding.

Go figure...

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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 02:14:38 PM »
Being from NY(Upstate), this is one of the most idiotic things these morons have ever done, And let me just say, they do alot of dumb things here.  I would have everyone on this forum know however that I have voiced my opposition to this new 'SAFE' act, but it seems now one is responding.

Go figure...
no it is not! they banned soda pop in large quantities, but encouraged diet soda that is 100 time more damaging than the regular pop. people have the right to choose what they want to eat and drink. that is not the governments right to micro-manage your diet.(what you eat)
They have become the nanny state that Great Britain has become, I do believe NY will pass GB in this area.
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 06:25:04 PM »
I started this thread with a less than stellar attitude for which I regret. I was truthful but as I think about it I would really like to see this type of thinking change nation wide. In the mean-time, this article might get some folks thinking:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/16/texas-calls-all-gun-toting-yanks.html
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 03:53:06 AM »
Now they need to go back and fix it.  Rushing into stupidity.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Fnew_york&id=8958116
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 06:31:27 PM »
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State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain, told us he's going to push for an amendment next week to exempt police officers from the high-capacity magazine ban. In his words, "You can't give more ammo to the criminals" [emphasis added]

They might not want to give more ammo to criminals than they do to LEOs, but they don't seem to care if criminals have more ammo that law-abiding citizens! In effect, they are saying criminals won't be obeying the new law.  ???
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Re: New York state gets things started
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2013, 02:33:31 PM »
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State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain, told us he's going to push for an amendment next week to exempt police officers from the high-capacity magazine ban. In his words, "You can't give more ammo to the criminals" [emphasis added]

They might not want to give more ammo to criminals than they do to LEOs, but they don't seem to care if criminals have more ammo that law-abiding citizens! In effect, they are saying criminals won't be obeying the new law.  ???

Would this no go along with the "lie 4 times and get away with it" leveling of the playing field - where everyone has a equal chance at success? I'm sure that many criminals would go along with it and would reduce the capacity in their "clips" to only seven "bullets" just as I'm sure that they will submit to background checks and check into mental-health centers. And, I'm sure that the criminal will honor all "Gun Free" zones and keep their carnage restricted to only those areas that are largely populated with gun owners and, more importantly legal gun carriers that can, and will, protect themselves.

We need to hold the criminal to a higher standard than we have been. These poor, poor pitiful creatures. As is said in the South when an individual is, well, "not right in the head";  Bless his heart!

I would rather punch a hole in the criminal's heart with an icepick than waste a perfectly good (and getting more expensive) round of ammunition. When a criminal hunts in bear country they had better expect armed bears.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2013, 03:32:26 PM »
I little bit of New York history:

NY was a lot larger in Colonial days.  After the Revolution,  the state of Vermont was formed from part of what was then NY...  because of NYs less then enthusiastic support for the Revolution.  One third the population of Long Island left with the British to Canada.

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