Author Topic: Isreal and School Security  (Read 540 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Taurian

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7865
  • Location: About 3,546 Miles S.E. of Nome Alaska
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

M1911A1

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3899
  • Location: I'm at the far upper left-hand corner of the US.
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 06:42:52 PM »
There was an armed deputy sheriff at the school as the killer began to shoot.
But that deputy sheriff did nothing to stop the killer. He stayed outside and did nothing!


And when he learned that he was to be disciplined for not having “moved toward the sound of the guns,” he resigned.

And now the Sheriff of the county in which the Florida killings took place is going to station an armed deputy in every school in the county.
But why wasn't this done before the shootings ever got started? Because it was deemed to be too expensive, and a waste of police resources.
So now, after the massacre had been accomplished, the Sheriff wants to "lock the stable door after the horse has already been stolen."

Good thinking, Sheriff.

(He's also against arming the teachers.)
Steve,
retired leathersmith and practical shooter


"Qui desiderat pacem, præparet bellum."

Taurian

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7865
  • Location: About 3,546 Miles S.E. of Nome Alaska
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 04:46:24 AM »
Not to worry. When the age to purchase a long gun is raised to 21 years old, it will fix everything.

We can see how well that works with alcohol. Why, we haven't had a recorded drunk driving incident in the last thirty seconds!
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

pop pop

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1234
  • Location: middle TN
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 07:39:58 AM »
It was reported this school had many disciplinary problems in the past few years. The Sherriff and school board decided to try an new approach(which turned out to be "Not" punish anyone for their actions) and guess what, some say this is the result of that progressive decision.

IMO, the Sherriff is practicing CYA to the max. He wants the public to blame the deputy, all be it one should, thereby transferring the heat to him rather than the progressive's and Sherriff's faulty disciplinary practices, and his and law enforcement in general (FBI) ineptness in dealing with Cruz. That Sherriff office received a complaint, in Jan of this year, about Cruz and did nothing. Seems every person in authority refused to deal with the problem of Cruz, but you know, the progressives just know, " Our Gov will protect us" so we really don't need guns. 

Agree with you Taurian, nothing Gov Scott has proposed will stop a single shooting in the future. Bump Stocks, raising age limits, or even outright ban on AR 15 rifles will not stop it. It is called "throw them a bone to appease them," attitude of politicians. Makes me sick to the stomach. My estimation Scott should peruse demands the FBI leader resign, and then hit  the Sherriff with the same demand. If the School principal and superintendent is in on this progressive discipline plan, then they need to go as well. Have "kahoonies" enough to put the blame where it should be! IMO, Scott is a puss, wimp, coward, of whatever adjective needed because of the proposal he just made.

Guys all the facts don't add up, and all the news is no in on this, but it does not pass the smell test, IMO, yet.   

Taurian

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7865
  • Location: About 3,546 Miles S.E. of Nome Alaska
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 08:00:05 AM »
The Sheriff, the FBI, and any others who neglected to investigate should be on bent knee in front of those 17 dead souls and say to them; "Your failure to live, was because of our failure to protect you."

If you believe in Karma, then this incident was supposed to happen. There is no way that it could not happen. And, it will happen again despite efforts to control inanimate objects. It's only a matter of time.
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

pop pop

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1234
  • Location: middle TN
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 08:26:49 AM »
Got this from another forum. Interesting.

To expand on the rep's interview: As GW notes, the Broward County Board of Education is the as yet unmentioned elephant in the room. On Laura Ingraham's show last night the Broward Deputy Association's representative Jeff Bell stated that the Board did NOT want arrests made, drugs found, or warrants served on school property. Offending students were to be dealt with in the "Promise Program" - intervention and diversion, as opposed to arrest and incarceration. This policy, agreed upon and touted by the School Board and the Sheriff's office quote: "Took all discretion from the officers to affect an arrest" on school property.

Is this "hands off the schools" policy what froze four deputies in place outside the building? We'll see as the stinky stuff bubbles to the surface.

Reports are surfacing that at the memorial service held the next day there were recriminations passed between the Coral Springs PD and Broward Sheriff's deputies. Also the Coral Springs City Manager and Sheriff Israel had a "heated discussion" in front of about a dozen witnesses.

Eventually the smoke will clear and we'll see once again what happens when we rely on government to protect us and our children.

Taurian

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7865
  • Location: About 3,546 Miles S.E. of Nome Alaska
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 09:07:33 AM »
Battle lines being drawn;
Nobody's right 'cause everybody's wrong.
Young people speaking their mind;
Getting so much pushin' from behind.

Sounds like a take on an old song? The pushing from behind means the efforts of the anti-gunners influencing the young, government-indoctrinated minds to speak for them - push the youth to the front line because the pushers are cowards.

The real threat is still ahead of us.  'Protect the children," they cry.  Yet, children are used in 3rd world countries to kill; they are trained to kill, but we cannot train our children how to protect themselves. Run, duck, cover, and hide is what you do when you cannot fight.

Lot's of sheep and very little sheep dogs.

Sorry, just some thoughts.
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

pstan13

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
  • Location: Wyoming
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 10:22:48 AM »
Stunning Photo Shows Real Reason Broward Sheriff Wants to Take Americans’ Guns

https://www.usapoliticstoday.org/photo-sheriff-americans-guns/

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Taurian

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7865
  • Location: About 3,546 Miles S.E. of Nome Alaska
Re: Isreal and School Security
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 10:50:27 AM »
Perhaps, the shooter was a Democrat and that was why the BSO did not engage? As ridiculous as it sounds, I had to ask.

A law-enforcement officer, regardless of political leaning, is to be for the people - all of the people regardless race, creed, color, or religion. A sheriff is an elected official and does not run under any political ticket - nor should there be one.  Because I am a conservative libertarian (if I had to classify), does that mean that my life is not worth the same as a leftist socialist under the eyes of the law in a so-called 'free' country?

When politics cloud rational judgement in an elected official, we have a problem - and we have had a problem for a very long time. Rational thinking went out a very long time ago.
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.