I am not "Wigging Out" - Yet!

[Taurian]

A hot new Pistol-Caliber Bullpup Kit for Hi-Point Carbines turns the Hi-Point "Puppy" into a "Bull-Puppy!"

Source: https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/hot-new-pistol-caliber-bullpup-kit/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20161021_FridayDigest_92&utm_campaign=/blog/hot-new-pistol-caliber-bullpup-kit/

[oldranger53]

Interesting!
Very interesting indeed!

<Stand Tall.  Speak the Truth.  Never Surrender.>

[M1911A1]

I think that it may be a really good idea.
The total price, including having to buy the Hi-Point carbine first, seems a little high though.

[Taurian]

I think that it may be a really good idea.
The total price, including having to buy the Hi-Point carbine first, seems a little high though.

I think that the design might be right for a right-handed shooter, because the expended cases eject to the right and away from the face. With "bull-pup' design shown, us left-handed shooters could be wearing hot shell nose plugs, or having our teeth brass-capped, when shooting the thing.  The shell ejection side cannot be changed on the Hi-Point carbine as it can with the Beretta CX4 Storm PCC. Perhaps, adding a deflection shield, where shell ejection is angled out and down, might be a consideration.  Having my snot-box that close to flying shells does not excite me, but it may be considered fun by some.

[M1911A1]

As always, lefties (Leftists?) would best shoot this gun upside-down.
Or inside-out?


Question: Should the gun be upside-down? Or the left-handed shooter?

[Taurian]

Better yet - bottom eject - Kel-Tec RDB - right for you - left for me 

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[NorCalChuck]

If I could own either this or a Thompson Sub Machine Gun I would go with the Thompson.
Nostalgia wins out . . . .

[M1911A1]

Better yet - bottom eject - Kel-Tec RDB - right for you - left for me 

This might be a better choice, except for its much-higher price.
However, I would still have an objection to it: It's very difficult to clear a jam from within its mechanism.
I would modify the action cover (the cheek-piece) to hinge open, either front-to-back or side-to-side, to make its breech much more accessible.

[Taurian]

Better yet - bottom eject - Kel-Tec RDB - right for you - left for me 

This might be a better choice, except for its much-higher price.
However, I would still have an objection to it: It's very difficult to clear a jam from within its mechanism.
I would modify the action cover (the cheek-piece) to hinge open, either front-to-back or side-to-side, to make its breech much more accessible.

Yes, it is on the high side. There are people who like the bull-pup style of firearms. I am not one of them.

I like the the hinged cover idea and it would make sense to have something like that.

Personally, I like the simplicity of the Hi-Point carbine as it is. What I would rather see is Hi-Point developing one that would take higher-capacity magazines; the use of Glock double-stack magazines would be a bug plus in my book.  And, at least with the Beretta CX4 Storm you get to play with 17-rounds (9mm version).

Regardless of what is done to the Hi-Point carbine, it is still a Hi-Point.

[oldranger53]

Better yet - bottom eject - Kel-Tec RDB - right for you - left for me 

This might be a better choice, except for its much-higher price.
However, I would still have an objection to it: It's very difficult to clear a jam from within its mechanism.
I would modify the action cover (the cheek-piece) to hinge open, either front-to-back or side-to-side, to make its breech much more accessible.

Yes, it is on the high side. There are people who like the bull-pup style of firearms. I am not one of them.

I like the the hinged cover idea and it would make sense to have something like that.

Personally, I like the simplicity of the Hi-Point carbine as it is. What I would rather see is Hi-Point developing one that would take higher-capacity magazines; the use of Glock double-stack magazines would be a bug plus in my book.  And, at least with the Beretta CX4 Storm you get to play with 17-rounds (9mm version).

Regardless of what is done to the Hi-Point carbine, it is still a Hi-Point.

True.
And...true.

I had to get past the "Hi Point-ness" of the PCC in order to "allow" myself to accept one into the stable here.

Yet, after several hundred rounds downrange with gleeful and astounding accuracy...I found I could overlook the fact that it is a Hi Point.
I'm sure whomever is on the receiving end wouldn't care it it was a Hi Point or a CX4 throwing lead at (into) them!

It works, and works well.

Now, it's not something I'd brag about at the range, but then, we're not talking about "range" shooting, eh?

<Stand Tall.  Speak the Truth.  Never Surrender.>

[CR Williams]

Better yet - bottom eject - Kel-Tec RDB - right for you - left for me 

This might be a better choice, except for its much-higher price.
However, I would still have an objection to it: It's very difficult to clear a jam from within its mechanism.
I would modify the action cover (the cheek-piece) to hinge open, either front-to-back or side-to-side, to make its breech much more accessible.

Yes, it is on the high side. There are people who like the bull-pup style of firearms. I am not one of them.

I like the the hinged cover idea and it would make sense to have something like that.

Personally, I like the simplicity of the Hi-Point carbine as it is. What I would rather see is Hi-Point developing one that would take higher-capacity magazines; the use of Glock double-stack magazines would be a bug plus in my book.  And, at least with the Beretta CX4 Storm you get to play with 17-rounds (9mm version).

You DO know that you can get 30rd magazines for Beretta 92s and CX4s? Botach and CDNN will likely get you the best prices. You're welcome.

As for the RDB--I want one. You may not like bullpups now but have you run them in buildings and around and in vehicles? The bottom ejection is just what I need for ambidextrous usage. The Tavor is good but even with a brass deflector still a bit uncomfortable shooting on the left. And the MI forend and flashlight make it heavier than I like right now. FS2000 is good especially with the front ejection but they don't make them any more. RDB is best in price of the new-builds coming out and has a good word for it from somebody I trust to give it to me straight.

[Taurian]

Yes, I do have a couple of 30-round magazines for the CX4 Storm. I have not yet function-tested them, though.

I do like the RDB, but it is just not on the wish list at this time.

[CR Williams]

Yes, I do have a couple of 30-round magazines for the CX4 Storm. I have not yet function-tested them, though.

Well do so at your earliest opportunity. The buy six more.