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Carrying, Weapons, Accessories, and Related => Handguns & Holsters => Topic started by: Robert Harvey on December 18, 2017, 10:40:09 AM

Title: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: Robert Harvey on December 18, 2017, 10:40:09 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12/18/us-soldiers-set-to-receive-new-holster-as-army-deploys-its-latest-pistol.html
"American soldiers are receiving a new sidearm for personal protection, the Sig Sauer 9mm XM17, and the more compact version, the XM18. These weapons are replacing the M9 as the Army’s service pistol.
Beretta’s M9 was first introduced as the Army’s sidearm in the Cold War era back in 1986 so this is the first time soldiers will be issued new sidearms in about 30 years.
Both new Sig Sauer pistols have great potential beyond self-defense, like close-quarter combat –so holsters that deliver smooth, easy draw are important.
Safariland’s commercially available tan 7TS holster will be used with the Army's new sidearm. "
"The 7TS holster has a smart design that enhances draw. Inside the holster there are thin raised surfaces called “risers.” These create airspace around the pistol.  This is important because it keeps moisture and dirt from contact with the gun – and, crucially, reduces friction."



Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: CR Williams on December 19, 2017, 05:19:02 AM
The Serpa cannot be ditched fast enough to suit me. Excellent development.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: M1911A1 on December 19, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
...And, both the design and the method of manufacture are interesting and innovative.
Even the material it's made of is innovative and interesting.

Another item to note: Modern military holsters seem to no longer need a protective flap. I wonder why.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: CR Williams on December 20, 2017, 05:33:22 AM
Well, it's not needed for retention any more, so that's one thing. I think they're probably more confident of the pistol's ability to handle the sand and the mud and the snow and the ______ than I would be if I was somebody that might have to go to ground with it on. It's also maybe easier to change the mounting and positioning if you don't have to worry about a flap as well. Just guessing on some of this.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: M1911A1 on December 20, 2017, 03:23:57 PM
You're probably correct, Richard.
To your thoughts, I'll add that the modern, mostly plastic pistol is so much less expensive to repair or replace that getting it dinged up...or even broken...is of (relatively) little concern.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: CR Williams on December 21, 2017, 05:43:46 AM
A good point, Steve. Given the modularity of the P320, they could just swap out the lower or slide and take their time fixing the internals. I think if I were a line solder with one, though, I'd still look into what it took to get a covered holster. BUT--the pistol is a second-line and sometimes last-resort weapon for everybody except MP and (sometimes) Special Operations, so that may not be important as far as the masses go.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: LEJoe on December 21, 2017, 01:40:30 PM
Had a Sherpa holster a while back. I gave it away.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: CR Williams on December 22, 2017, 05:33:31 AM
Serpa is an example of the power of marketing skill over common sense.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: Taurian on February 08, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
Some news on the pistol:

https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/01/31/army-responds-dod-report-criticizing-new-sidearm-reliability.html?ESRC=army_180206.nl
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: CR Williams on February 10, 2018, 08:45:50 AM
Some news on the pistol:

https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/01/31/army-responds-dod-report-criticizing-new-sidearm-reliability.html?ESRC=army_180206.nl

Somebody else pointed out to me that every weapons system the military deploys has some hiccups for a while. This seems no different in that respect.
Title: Re: US soldiers set to receive new holster as Army deploys its latest pistol
Post by: Taurian on February 10, 2018, 10:50:31 AM
M16 comes to mind - for one.  Some paid dearly for those 'hiccups.'