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Everything Else / Re: Opera
« Last post by flyover on August 20, 2017, 09:03:59 AM »
It isn't that Yahoo is bad enough...
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The West Virginia Citizens Defense League  http://www.wvcdl.org/   sent out this Update on new laws on carrying in West Virginia and also informed me that West Virginia now honors Wisconsin. It doesn’t really matter since WV went Permitless Carry but they still have a reciprocity law on the books. The WVCDL   They have done a tremendous job here in my home state of West Virginia just like many other state orgs are doing in their respective states. If you are not a member of your states Right to Keep and Bear Arms Organization Handgunlaw.us highly recommends you join. Again they are making the difference at the state level. 

SB388:  School drop off, pickup, and storage.

Individuals with valid CHLs may now pickup, drop-off, and store loaded firearms while on school property.  This comes with some very important caveats.  The first of these: Do not leave the vehicle while armed.  That will still be a felony.
You may have the firearm concealed on your person while you remain in the car in ingress, egress, and parking lots.  You may store your firearm in an internal locking compartment affixed to the car, leaving the car locked, if you must leave your vehicle while on school property.
NOTHING IN SB388 AUTHORIZES CHL HOLDERS TO CARRY FIREARMS OUTSIDE OF THEIR VEHICLES ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.
http://www.legis.state.wv.us/Bill_Status/bills_text.cfm?billdoc=SB388%20SUB1%20enr.htm&yr=2017&sesstype=RS&i=388

Further, you may not pickup, drop off, or store firearms on school property if you are carrying under "constitutional carry."  You must have a CHL to take advantage of this.  If you do not have a CHL, just having the loaded gun on school property in your vehicle constitutes a felony.
 
HB2679:  State park carry, County park preemption, and statewide Sunday hunting.

In state parks, it is now lawful to carry a firearm for self-defense purposes.  The only exclusion is that long-arms may not be carried in or on park recreation facilities or marked trails within the parks, unless they are in a case. Please note that some parks in WV are Army Corps of Engineers property, and carry of firearms (except in limited circumstances for hunting or range use) is prohibited. 
http://www.legis.state.wv.us/Bill_Status/bills_text.cfm?billdoc=HB2679%20SUB%20ENR.htm&yr=2017&sesstype=RS&i=2679
County park commissions are now prohibited from passing rules regulating the carry of firearms.

North Dakota will become Permitless Carry for North Dakota Residents ONLY August 1st.
http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/65-2017/documents/17-0086-06000.pdf
This only applies to Residents 18 and older who can legally possess a firearm. Non Residents must have a permit/license North Dakota Issues or Honors to carry in North Dakota.

Kansas AG has put out an Opinion stating that Colleges/Universities can have a rule stating firearms carried must be carried with an empty chamber. You can read that opinion Here:  http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/KSAGOpinionCarryWithoutRdinChamber.pdf 

The Polite Soceity Podcast, Proarms Podcast, Geeks Gadgets and Guns Podcast come together to bring you an interview with Massad Ayoob at Mag 40 in Soux Falls South Dakota August 2017.  I have attended Mag 40 and Mag 80 When they were called LFI  I & II and have assisted Ayoob in a Mag 40 class. The interview is very good and touches on a variety of subjects as all of his usually do and it has a special place for Me and Handgunlaw.us at the 8:30 to 9:30 time slot.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ByQ0QWuVrE
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http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/woman-is-stabbed-two-unarmed-men-try-saving-her-get-stabbed-then-dude-with-gun-shows-up/?

"An incident like this could have easily been prevented if Lynd had done one simple act, locking her car door. However, this event is a great reminder why our nation is so lucky to have a Second Amendment and why we need to preserve this right. Watson was ready to kill to get away with his crime, had someone with a “better” weapon not come along, who knows how this struggle would have ended."
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Everything Else / Re: Opera
« Last post by NorCalChuck on August 16, 2017, 02:51:42 PM »
I would need more information about this browser censorship thingee!!!
I know that Google has gone bonkers and is attempting to rule the world but Opera. I don't think so. They are much to small an entity to be taken seriously.
There is so much BULLSHIT on the internet that one really needs to verify anything to actually take it seriously. Anytime I hear anything that I think might actually effect me personally I dig into it. I need 4, 5 or 6 sources before I even begin to think that it might be factual.
And by sources I mean varied and from some remote view point. 

Why you say do I need as many as 6 or more view points . . . . Because so many opinions I find actually come from the same source or sources. Some of them actually attempt to make it look like they researched it them selves.

But then again that is only my opinion . . . .  . and please do not make me one of your reliable sources. I have been known to make things up just to see how far they will go. What is amazing is that by the time it comes back to me I think that perhaps I was actually right.
Now that is scary . . . . . .
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Everything Else / Re: Opera
« Last post by Taurian on August 16, 2017, 02:07:35 PM »
If Firefox follows through, then it would be a censorship device - as is becoming Facebook and other forms of social media.

From what I understand, the Opera browser does not support censorship and would be an obvious choice for me - if I can garner some more information about it.

Progressives, it seems, are like petulant children who are not getting their way. If they don't like the message, it is far easier to attack the messenger than give in to thought that could sway their opinion, or even move to a point to agree to disagree.

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Everything Else / Re: Opera
« Last post by M1911A1 on August 16, 2017, 01:43:30 PM »
Don't need it, don't want it, don't give a damn for it.

If it's a censorship device, the people who sign-up for it deserve what they get.
And if it is indeed a censorship device, there is no way to divert the attentions of the sheeple from it.
Sheeple want censorship, as long as the censor agrees with their point-of-view.

Aside (about censorship):
     Jean and I just had dinner with two cousins, brothers, one of whom is religious, and the other of whom is a Progressive atheist. The dinner was at their mother's home. The mother is a non-observant Jew.
     The religious brother had previously asked his mother's permission to say a short benediction at table before we began to eat. The mother had said, "Yes, that's OK."
     As the religious brother began his benediction, the Progressive-atheist brother began to complain that his sibling was "forcing his religion on us, whether we wanted it or not."
     I pointed out that Jean and I are atheists, but that standing through the religious brother's benediction didn't bother us at all. We didn't feel "forced" into any form of religion, but rather were merely honoring the religious brother's strong belief.
     The Progressive-atheist brother continued to complain, and, finally, threw a tantrum (at age 40) and stormed off, and even slammed the door on his way out.
     It seemed to Jean and me that the Progressive-atheist brother was presenting a perfect example of modern Progressive thinking: "I will tolerate and support your freedom to think and speak as you prefer, but only if your thought and your speech agree with my own beliefs."
     (And there goes the First Amendment.)
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Everything Else / Opera
« Last post by Taurian on August 16, 2017, 10:06:22 AM »
What are your thoughts on the Opera Browser?

It seems that developers of Firefox are aligning with funding from George Soros and are going into the news censorship business. That bothers me.  It's time to research better browsers that believe in the right to freedom of speech - even if we don't like what is being said. That's the beauty of Freedom of Choice - at this point, we are still able to (somewhat) exercise choices of our own choosing.
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Cowards will do what they do when the run up against those who are willing to push back.
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The old saying about having a gun and not needing it applies... having someone watching your six helps also.
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Your story proves to you, and to us, that all those hoplophobe Progressives who tell everybody that there is no need for armed self defense are speaking from the standpoint of absolutely no experience.

It always reminds me of the city folks who tell those of us who live in the country that "nobody needs those gas-guzzling 4WD trucks."
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