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why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« on: December 21, 2013, 09:18:51 AM »
http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines/
Interesting article... can not be verified by any one who does not have a security clearance.
The guy who wrote it is dead, he had security clearance.

only time will tell...


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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2013, 03:32:35 PM »
...The guy who wrote it is dead...

Had he been beheaded?
Was his name Robespierre? Or Marat? Or Saint-Just?



The question was, "Why did the US government recently purchase 30,000 guillotines?"
The most likely answer is: "It didn't."


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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 10:51:40 AM »
...The guy who wrote it is dead...

Had he been beheaded?
Was his name Robespierre? Or Marat? Or Saint-Just?



The question was, "Why did the US government recently purchase 30,000 guillotines?"
The most likely answer is: "It didn't."


Beware of unverifiable articles written by non-existent authors.
Word on the street is he lost is head.  I dunno if that was before or after he wrote the article...or maybe both?
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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 11:19:22 AM »
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives/19951996/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm
 A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT 1- 1  To amend Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official 1- 2  Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty 1- 3  generally, so as to provide a statement of legislative 1- 4  policy; to provide for death by guillotine; to provide for 1- 5  applicability; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other 1- 6  purposes. 1- 7       BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF GEORGIA: SECTION 1. 1- 8  The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to 1- 9  death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for 1-10  transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that 1-11  electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for 1-12  transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting 1-13  this legislation is to provide for a method of execution 1-14  which is compatible with the donation of organs by a 1-15  condemned prisoner. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 12:06:34 PM »
more info - beheading which is not used in the USA is noted as a legal medical code E978, it is used to reference Action taken by Authorities that resulted in a legal death.
http://www.pitchstonehealth.com/coding/icd9/E978--legal-execution
E978 Legal execution.

Clarifying Terms

from E978
    All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority [whether permanent or temporary] as:
    asphyxiation by gas
    beheading, decapitation (by guillotine)
    capital punishment
    electrocution
    hanging
    poisoning
    shooting
    other specified means

source: 2014 ICD-9-CM
Includes

from E970-E978
    Injuries inflicted by the police or other law-enforcing agents, including military on duty, in the course of arresting or attempting to arrest lawbreakers, suppressing disturbances, maintaining order, and other legal action
    Legal execution

source: 2014 ICD-9-CM
Excludes

from E970-E978
    Injuries caused by civil insurrections (E990.0-E999)

source: 2014 ICD-9-CM
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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 12:21:53 PM »
Robert;
You brought up an unverifiable "fact" about the federal government buying guillotines, and then you attempted to verify it by referencing legislative discussion in the state of Georgia. Please explain how those two things relate.
Then you have referenced a health-information-related site, in which there is a list of possible causes of death. One of the listed causes is "beheading." Please explain how this relates to the unverifiable "fact" that the US government is buying guillotines.

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 12:32:51 PM »
I am not trying to verify the purchase... Time will have to do that.
Time will show if there was or was NOT purchases by our government for such things.
I am showing that, what was never used here in the USA is becoming acceptable.
that code is an code for law enforcement actions against the accused.
it is a medical code to describe the cause of death.
Currently, that I know of, there have not been any beheadings by officials in the united states.
I do believe that will change over time.
I was just posting the verifiable stuff I found about the subject.
There is tons of non-verifiable stuff, if 1% of it is true, things down the road will be radically changing in America.
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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 03:53:10 PM »
Beheading is an acceptable form of death - for Jihadist. It's not an acceptable form of death for me, but some folks really enjoy doing it to others - especially to Christians. Cheaper than gas and more environmentally -friendly.

They are portable and are efficient. What more can one ask for? Plus, you save on ammunition and it is a lot quieter than execution by firing squad.

I guess that you could consider the article as a "heads-up".
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 06:53:15 PM »
Beheading is an acceptable form of death - for Jihadist. It's not an acceptable form of death for me, but some folks really enjoy doing it to others - especially to Christians. Cheaper than gas and more environmentally -friendly.

They are portable and are efficient. What more can one ask for? Plus, you save on ammunition and it is a lot quieter than execution by firing squad.

I guess that you could consider the article as a "heads-up".
normally they fall down <grin>
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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 07:42:31 PM »
If the US government is buying 30,000 guillotines, then I expect that the acquisition will evolve in exactly the same manner as all other government purchases.
That is, very soon after the acquisition, most of those unused guillotines will appear for sale on the surplus-materiel market.

If that does indeed happen, I intend to purchase one.
It will be the perfect thing for clipping the ends off of cigars, and also for chopping carrots.
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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 04:01:25 PM »
If the US government is buying 30,000 guillotines, then I expect that the acquisition will evolve in exactly the same manner as all other government purchases.
That is, very soon after the acquisition, most of those unused guillotines will appear for sale on the surplus-materiel market.

If that does indeed happen, I intend to purchase one.
It will be the perfect thing for clipping the ends off of cigars, and also for chopping carrots.

I foresee an auto-feed, cam-operated, solar-powered, celery chopper as well. That slap-top veggie slicer would become history.
The fact that the GOVERNMENT would even consider removing the natural right to bear arms is the very reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

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Re: why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 05:02:32 PM »
If the US government is buying 30,000 guillotines, then I expect that the acquisition will evolve in exactly the same manner as all other government purchases.
That is, very soon after the acquisition, most of those unused guillotines will appear for sale on the surplus-materiel market.

If that does indeed happen, I intend to purchase one.
It will be the perfect thing for clipping the ends off of cigars, and also for chopping carrots.
that would be a nasty mix, tobacco and carrots..maybe you should get two, one for veggies and one for the Cigs.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 05:09:35 PM »
Some carrots require a specialized slicer:

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2013, 05:17:18 PM »
That must've once belonged to Saddam Hussein, because it is surely the Mother of all Carrots!
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