Author Topic: Violence and Utopia- Realism and Idealism in the age of Gun Control  (Read 280 times)

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What most 21st Century Americans simply do not grasp is that the Constitution and Bill of Rights were not written to to give rights to the citizens of our then-new nation, but was instead written to tightly constrain the federal government.

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Re: Violence and Utopia- Realism and Idealism in the age of Gun Control
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 01:04:46 PM »
I was talking to Jean about this very subject, last night.
Her take: Progressives (the "idealists" of the article) are, essentially, logical and emotional adolescents.
Adolescents, as you may remember from your own youth, know all of the right answers, and, particularly, know exactly how to "fix" the world to make everything better for everybody.

Maybe all we have to do is wait until they all grow up.
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Re: Violence and Utopia- Realism and Idealism in the age of Gun Control
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 01:58:21 PM »
I should live so long!
What most 21st Century Americans simply do not grasp is that the Constitution and Bill of Rights were not written to to give rights to the citizens of our then-new nation, but was instead written to tightly constrain the federal government.

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Re: Violence and Utopia- Realism and Idealism in the age of Gun Control
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 03:10:56 PM »
The first naturally born man, in the text of the Bible, was a liar and murderer.

Apart from any doctrinal or theological debates, that is the fact of the matter.



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Re: Violence and Utopia- Realism and Idealism in the age of Gun Control
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 03:24:01 PM »
The first naturally born man, in the text of the Bible, was a liar and murderer.

Apart from any doctrinal or theological debates, that is the fact of the matter.

Wade, trust you to get to the heart of the issue!

Not being a religionist, my take is that the Bible was written by humans to explain, at least in part, observed human behaviors.
The story of Cain and Abel, therefore, seems to me to be both full of truth and a warning.
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