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Re: NYPD Approves Springfield Armory XD-S For Off-Duty Use
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 08:23:29 AM »
They need "approval" in their choice of off duty weapons?

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Re: NYPD Approves Springfield Armory XD-S For Off-Duty Use
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 11:05:28 AM »
They need "approval" in their choice of off duty weapons?

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Yes. Departments have to authorize what you carry off duty. You also have to qualify with that off-duty carry when you qualify with your on-duty carry.

It used to be a hoot when several of us deputies would show up for qualifying with 5 or six off-duty carry guns.  Each of those firearms were "department approved" and would range from Smith & Wesson Model 36 to privately-owned .357 magnums.  The only gun that was not approved (aside from my L.A.R Grizzly Win-Mag in .45 Winchester Magnum) was my Ruger Redhawk in .44 magnum.  While the department did prevent me from carrying a Series 80 MK IV Government Model 1911 on-duty, they did allow my Series 80 MK IV Commander to be carried off-duty. Go figure!

In some departments, off-duty carry guns are dictated by policy. Some departments, as mine was in the old days, were more lenient as long as you qualified and showed competency with the firearm - that was before we became a seriously litigious society and before there was a new Sheriff elected.

As I have mentioned before, I went from a Government model 1911 to the Sig Sauer P220 to the Smith & Wesson 686 before I left the department; whereupon, the new Sheriff switched EDC to the Beretta 92, which was the EDC for the department that he had left (as a lieutenant in another county's Sheriff's department) prior to getting elected as Sheriff of my county.  The county (all police agencies in the county, including city PDs) have since moved to Glock pistols.
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